We hired Joe as soon as we met him, Jodie and I wanted someone who we could have rapport with. And as soon as we met Joe we were laughing and joking, and the communication through COVID and having to change dates was exceptional. And then the wedding day came, We had Joe himself and Justin, and wow, they were both absolutely incredible, we were laughing and joking with them, they added so much value to our wedding day: all our guests said how brilliant they were.